Il fait réf aux documents et il a fallu aller chercher des phrases obscures prononcées dans des conféreences et non ce qu'il a écrit dans ses livres; cite des passages d'H.W. où il condamne formellement ah. Il dit la même chose que les autres sur la responsabilitéglobale de ah en tant que chef de l'ét at, mais diffère en ce qu'il ne voit aucune preuve du rôle personnel dans l'organisation.

To summarise, in Hitler's War I differed from other historians in suggesting that the actual mass murders were not all or mainly initiated by Hitler. I pointed out that my sources were consistent with another explanation: A conscious desire "not to know" (I referred to a Richard Nixon kind of complex).14 n.

He cites the professor A;J; Taylor, qui dit qu'on n'ira pas loin tant qu'on attribuera tout à ah.,,,,,,,

Exchange with Evans: IRVING: You said that my footnotes are opaque because they do not always give the page reference. Do you agree that, on a page which we are going to come across in the course of this morning, of your own expert report, you put a footnote in just saying "See Van Pelt's report", see expert report by Robert van Pelt, and that expert report is about 769 pages long, is it not?16;

Pour les mauvaises traductions: dans les éditions allemandes, il n'y a pas de traduction!; (ibid, next paragraph)

Les documents sur lesquels il a travaillé n'était pas édités; les éditions auxquelles font réf ses adversaires sont plus tardives.

A propos de la nuit de cristal: il maintient son affirmation que ah a voulu l'arrêter parce qu'elle est fondée sur des documents. Burrin pense la même chose que lui.

Evans a avoué qu'il n'avait pas lu tout le texte du journal de Goebbels.

Il réaffirme qu'il n'est pas spécialiste de l'holocoste mais biographe et historien de la guerre.

My various references to Marie Vaillant-Couturier seem to have been quite justified, from what we know of her and of her full testimony to the Nuremberg tribunal in 1946. She had married the editor of l'Humanité, she and her father were bosom friends of Willi Münzenberg, author of the propaganda about the Reichstag Fire - a founder member and one of the most accomplished propagandists of the Comintern. It is evident from the way that the hard-pressed defence counsel Marx conducted his cross-examination of her that he was implying to the tribunal that she had not even been in Auschwitz. Your Lordship will remember that she described to the IMT a beating-machine used by the SS to administer corporal punishment. Her testimony is riddled with such absurdities, and when the experienced American Judge Biddle jotted down his sceptical comment on this witness, even as she was still speaking, he meant it - and I certainly took it in that way - to be a reference to all that he had heard (and largely disbelieved) up to that point.

Les mémoires d'eichmann: il y décrit d'affrexu spectacles auxquels il a assisté, mais il n'a jamais vu de chambre à gaz...

Hilberg et l'ordre de hitler:

In a similar step, which I think I took to appease the now worried American publishers, I wrote in December 1975 to four or five of the major international Jewish historical research institutions, appealing for "evidence proving Hitler's guilt in the extermination of the Jews." All of these inquiries by me drew a blank, except for one. As I summarised in a letter to The Sunday Telegraph on June 19, 1977, "... all offered their apologies, except Professor Raul Hilberg, author of the standard history on the subject, who honourably conceded that he too has come to the view that Hitler may not have known." (His letter is in my Discovery).26 ,

Les organisations juives contre Irving:

" these bodies [jewish organizations], acting with that secret and common purpose, compiled dossiers and reports on me with the intention of destroying me. They did so exercising no proper care for accuracy; and, as is evident from the Second Defendant's Discovery, and from the Introduction to her book in which she explicitly acknowledges the assistance provided by many of these bodies, she drew upon these tainted wellsprings as the source for much of the poison she wrote about me.27 We shall hear that, buried in the files of the Simon Wiesenthal Centre in Toronto, is a document, now also in ms. Lipstadt's files - they sent it to her - which forms something of a blueprint for the attempt to destroy my name. A researcher for the Centre, commissioned to investigate my life in detail, recommended in that compilation, after referring to my "thorough archival research" and "genuine historical insight" as follows: "Given this accurate version of reality, it is all the more clear why his activities must be curtailed, and why his [David Irving's] alleged legitimacy must be eradicated."

A propos de Wannsee et de son objet:

"I have read again the printed version of the meeting of the Generalgouvernement authorities Hans Frank on December 16, 1941. It is significant to see the amount of space taken, even in this abridged published version, by the typhus epidemic sweeping through the region, the climax of which was expected to come in April 1942 (pages "68 72"). Frank states that he has begun negotiations with the purpose of deporting the Jews to the east, and he mentions the big Heydrich conference set down for January 1942 on this topic in Berlin (page "73"). On page "74" comes the sentence which pulls out the rug from beneath the Defendants' feet: "For us, the Jews are exceptionally damaging mouths to feed. We've got an estimated 2.5m in the Generalgouvernement, perhaps 3.5m Jews now, what with all their kinfolk and hangers-on. We can't shoot these 3.5m Jews, we can't poison them, but we'll be able to do something with them, which somehow or other will have the result of destroying them, in fact, in conjunction with the grander measures still to be discussed at Reich level." Clearly, only a geographical solution was at that time on the cards, and anticipated at the Berlin (i.e. Wannsee conference).
The December 18, 1941 diary entry by Himmler reads: Judenfrage | als Partisanen auszurotten. Himmler had, as I pointed out to the Court, repeatedly referred in earlier documents to the phrase "Juden als Partisanen". This was nothing new or sensational therefore, and the words he was recording were not necessarily Hitler's but more probably his own stereotype phrase. The correct, pedantic translation, is in any case: "Jewish Problem | to be wiped out as being partisans." Not "like partisans", which would have been "wie Partisanen." There can be no equivocating about this translation of als. Wie is a comparison, als is an equivalent.23,"

A propos de la "solution finale" en 1942:

Another most difficult piece of historical paper for my opponents is the Schlegelberger Document. In late March or early April 1942, after seeing Germany's top civil servant, who reported only to Hitler, Franz Schlegelberger dictated this famous memorandum, upon which all Holocaust historians, and the Defendants' expert witnesses in this case have hitherto turned enough blind eyes to have won several battles of Trafalgar. For many years after the war it vanished: but that is another story. Asked about this specific document after a lecture in the German Institute, here in London in November 1998, Dr Longerich, who is now the Defendants' expert witness, had the function's chairman rise to inform the audience that the speaker was not prepared to answer questions from David Irving. It is a genuine document, referring in one breath both to Hitler and the Solution of the Jewish Problem. Confronted with it in the witness box, he and his fellow experts have argued, either that it was totally unimportant; or that it concerned only the Mischlinge, the mixed race Jews, and not the Final Solution in any broader sense. Ingeniously, Dr Longerich even tried to suggest that it originated in 1940 or 1941. The document has them in a breathless panic.
The document's own contents destroy their latter argument: In the first sentence, it says: "Mr Reich Minister Lammers informed me that the Führer had repeatedly declared to him that he wants to hear that the Solution of the Jewish Problem has been adjourned [or postponed] until after the war." That this is the broader Final Solution is plain from the second sentence which shows namely that the Mischling question was something different: "Accordingly," the memorandum continues, "the current deliberations have in the opinion of Mr Lammers purely theoretical value." Those deliberations were, as my opponents themselves have argued, solely concerned with what to do with the Mischlinge and the like. The document is quite plain; and it was dictated by a lawyer, so he presumably knew what he was writing. There is no room for argument. My opponents have pretended for years that this document effectively does not exist.,

The International Endeavour to destroy my Legitimacy as an Historian,

les organisations juives poursuivent plusieurs buts: faire interdire de publication, de vente, de conférences et de recherche dans les archives parce que "Lipstadt's files after referring to my "thorough archival research" and "genuine historical insight" as follows:"Given this accurate version of reality, it is all the more clear why his activities must be curtailed, and why his [David Irving's] alleged legitimacy must be eradicated."

destruction des livres par Mac Millan, sans qu'irving soit informé. (1992); la guerre déclarée par les juifs est annoncée telle quelle dans the independent,

Histoire d'Auschwitz ,

ouvert comme mémorial du martyre des Polonais et d'autres peuples, en 1948.

Les morts d'Auschwitz:

How many had died at Auschwitz? We still do not now with certainty, because the tragic figure has become an object of politics too. Professor Arno Mayer, Professor of European History at the University of Princeton, a scholar of considerably greater renommée than Professor Evans, and himself a Jew, expressed the view in one book that most of the victims of the camp died of exhaustion and epidemics. "From 1942 to 1945 more Jews died, at least in Auschwitz, and probably everywhere else, of 'natural' causes of death than of 'unnatural.'"107,

le nombre des morts: les russes parlent d'abord de 300000, le procès de Cracovie s'en tient à ce nombre (1947), puis le nombre augmente. Il ne parle pas des 900.000 mais directement des quatre millions et de la stèle,

très intéressante description de la position des historiens (bauer, finkelstein, reitlinger, hilberg,

Wannsee: "silly story",qu'on nous a ressorti sans arrêt pendant le procès

The Leuchter Report,

Leuchter n'a pas été refusé comme expert, son rapport n'a pas été accepté parce que les trib<. canadiens n'acceptent pas les rapports techniques à l'audience mais seulement les dépositions d'experts; leuchter n'a pas été exclu comme expert, il a été limité à la poss d'utilisation des chs comme chs homicides; un chimiste Roth a commenté les résultats chimiques en faveur des rév.

The Morgue roof,

Van Pelt invente que les nazis ont rebouché les trous du leichenkeller I; mais ils ont détruit celui du leichekeller II. Pour Irving, cela revient à créer volontairement des restes archéologiques prouvant leur crime.

Mauvaise foi de Van Pelt:

Where until this moment he had seen dots on another photograph with no difficulty, the witness Van Pelt now pleaded poor eyesight ("I have now reached the age I need reading glasses," he said, "and I do not have them with me. I did not expect this kind of challenge." Precisely.)

Krema II as air raid shelter,

Moral certainty: trois fois ds le rapport de Van Pelt

I will not dwell long on the uniformly poor evidentiary basis on the other extermination camps, known to the Court as the Operation Reinhard camps. - Belzec, Sobibor and Treblinka. Here we do not even have the "moral certainty" which comforted Professor Van Pelt, Browning admet que pour ses camps, les xolurces sont rares, qu'il n'y a aucune preuve documentaire.

The allegations of racism and anti-Semitism

The speeches and lectures,

Extremist organisations and people,

 

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